Thursday, September 18, 2008

Alright, can we at least agree that breaking into Palin's email address is a criminal offense? That somebody should be punished for this? Can we at least set that level of decency?

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At 9/19/2008 01:56:00 PM, Blogger Chris said...

Sure. That's a no-brainer. I saw the other day somebody in Tennessee was being questioned about it. Red state indeed!

 
At 9/19/2008 03:17:00 PM, Blogger Mike said...

Turns out it was the son of a state senator! He's a student at UT. I wonder what they'll do to the kid. Hopefully hit him with a real punishment, but keep his record clean. He's young and stupid.

 

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Tuesday, September 09, 2008

A Few Thoughts

So far, this election has been pretty much a referendum on Obama, which is why most of my thoughts have been centered on him. My main fears (and yes, he makes me quite afraid), on top of having no idea how he would govern, are whom he associates with.

We all know, after it was finally too big to ignore, that he followed the awful pastor Jeremiah Wright. He has gifted himself, Jim Baker like, a seven-figure home built buy his own church, and has perhaps ruined a marriage of a woman that he's had an affair with. That's way over the top, and much worse than anyone McCain or Palin have associated with.

The next guy is Ayers, whom only Hillary has even mentioned. He was a terrorist from the Weather Underground who thinks they didn't go far enough. Here's more about him, including a bit about Obama. On this, I would need to learn more, but that's a part of the problem. The media have not looked into it. Maybe they're trying to find someone in Wasilla who heard Palin say a swear word one day or something horrible.

And the third is Rezko, who helped him buy his house just before being convicted for a felony. And no, most people don't know these names, because the press have no desire to report on them.

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Now to the other topic. I have a nasty, visceral reaction to hearing him speak. I am afraid of any politician who can speak like he can. I happen to strongly disagree with much of what he's saying - that the country is in bad shape or whatever - but I can't really blame him for bringing up topics that aren't easily disproven without finding certain economic papers. It's popular. But the love for the guy... it needs to be tempered. He's a politician, and one from Chicago at that, created and formed from that horrible political machine. Be careful what you make him out to be.

And now Palin has happened... and the right wing has its own Obama. Dems, you know that feeling of hate you feel for her? That's what I've felt for Obama from the first moment I heard him speak. I would ask that insults to her accent are stopped, because I think that's pretty damn close to being racist, but just some understanding past that would be acceptable. No woman like this has ever graced the world stage before, and I've known plenty like her. It's fantastic they have a representative.

I've been thinking the past several days after I felt such incredibly strong emotions during Palin's speech in Minneapolis. We really don't understand each other here. I have no idea why anyone would think Obama could be a great leader, and I have no idea how someone could truly hate a woman like Palin. So somebody learn me somethin' here; what am I missing about Obama? I would really like to hear. Let's make this something positive before something awful happens; emotions are getting pretty high.

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At 9/10/2008 12:20:00 AM, Blogger Chris said...

Well, certainly some things to chew on. I'm not sure I'm all that concerned about his past associations, especially since nearly everyone on the planet who makes contacts/friends is going to have a few who are linked to shady stuff. The question is, are the people with shady associations also shady?

I'm not sure what you mean by his speaking...is it annoying because he talks eloquently without saying much, or does it just creep you out on some other level?

Also, I'm searching for a little clarity on your last paragraph...a little vague.

I'd like to see these economic papers, and what their sources are that state we are actually living in better times than much of the media thinks we are (and believe me, I'm not a big fan of the media on the whole). What do we make of all the stuff happening with mortgages, job loss, and energy costs?

After watching Lou Dobbs last night, I'm beginning to wonder what the real agenda, overall, is of both candidates. There's just too much BS flying around. I just want proof and stuff that matters.

 
At 9/10/2008 01:05:00 AM, Blogger Mike said...

I hear you; that wasn't the best written thing, but I was just throwing out thoughts. The thing about the associations is that they aren't in the past; they are very current.

His speaking just creeps me out, like a leader from a less free state. And people buy it so heavily, like he's a Messiah or something. Do you have some idea of what I'm talking about? He doesn't seem to much like this country. But now Palin supporters are doing some of the same things, and it's starting to get to me as well, even though I really like Palin.

I'll post more in the future about the ecomony, when I have a bit of time. I will say that 6.1% unemployment is historically pretty good, with GDP maybe on the rebound with the second quarter at 3%. We'll see about the future, but currently we're pretty strong. Yes, it's slipping, but we've gone from freaking awesome to pretty average. And it frustrates me that nobody knows that. Let's hope we don't get much worse.

I'm just not happy with the state of either side today. The emotions that I'm seeing on both sides of the aisle are incredibly strong, and usually not rational. Nobody wants to debate the facts, just defend their own side. We are really far apart on this, approaching a fundamentalist's zeal, and I don't think that's healthy for a nation. I am afraid that some idiot's going to do something stupid to one of the candidates, if not in this election, then the next one. Hopefully I'm overreacting a bit, but it's starting to get ugly.

 
At 9/11/2008 01:07:00 PM, Blogger Kennelworthy said...

I'm with Mike on the whole "speaking creeps me out" thing. I have gotten this vibe for a long, long time.

I guess I want my president to be an eloquent speaker. But when all the eloquent speaking comes at campaign stops and as part of a calculated political agenda... it's even harder for me.

I suppose that public speaking ability has nothing directly to do with a person's ability to lead. But the Obama campaign has always seemed to me to be basically saying, "Look how eloquent our guy is, you should love him." And the specifics are lost in that message.

And instead of talking about his experience and his actual plans... we just get more rhetoric. Brilliantly delivered rhetoric, sure. But rhetoric nonetheless.

You don't hold your convention in an 80,000-seat NFL stadium unless you're purposefully trading on how much of a rock star your candidate is.

It's the same cult of personality stuff that bothers me with mega church pastors and televangelists. It feels like acting.

I'm sure it's just my reaction to it, and that not everyone feels that way. But I felt the same way with Clinton. People say Gore lost because he was boring, and maybe that is true, but I never got that whole "fake" vibe with him at least.

The real problem, of course, is that no candidate can be real. Everything has to be part of a carefully orchestrated ballet. Where they speak, what they say, who they pick as a running mate, how their logo looks... it's all something some marketing person suggested would be good for the perception of that candidate. So we're forcing them all to act... to censor themselves and follow some script.

If campaigns were movies, Obama would win an Oscar and McCain would go straight to DVD. But if they were documentaries... Obama would be called "too slick... not real enough."

 

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Friday, September 05, 2008

Elections Would Make Great Horror Movies

Through the past couple of months, I've found myself impressed by both Barack Obama and John McCain, and this is rare to feel come election time. I didn't like either candidate in 2004, and during the first couple of elections I just considered myself a Republican and went for Bob Dole in 1996 and Bush in 2000, then gave the default vote for Bush in 2004. I was 19, 23, and 27 then. I'm 31 now, and I feel like something has changed enough to vote Democrat this election.

It's easy to be impressed by Barack Obama and for around two years now, he's been the guy for whom I've wanted to vote for a long time. Young guys full of ideas excite me, but much has been made of his experience. Experience, I feel, is important in some aspects but overrated in others. It seems like to me that no potential first-term President has meaningful experience in running a country, and while governors and mayors can at least tout running a smaller populace, I doubt being a governor or mayor truly prepares someone completely.

So that brings me to the horror movie aspect of elections. We have to weigh a lot of factors, but then one side will say, "That side is going to raise your taxes," and another will say, "They won't be tough on terrorists!" And you might as well be in a haunted house being taunted by ghosts with all the scare tactics you will hear in the next two months.

But what's even scarier for me are the lies or misinformation that can be proved as lies or misinformation, and the candidates still use these talking points as strengths. After Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin made her impressive speech at the RNC, I was already seeing rebuttals complete with proof. The one that stands out, and I'm certainly not saying it's the most important one, is the one where she says something like, "I told Congress [as Alaska governor] we don't need your Bridge to Nowhere. If we need a bridge, we'll build it ourselves."

And, of course, we find out that she supported the so-called Bridge to Nowhere until it became unpopular to do so.

So it brings me to another horrific aspect of elections: Sarah Palin is going to continue to make many points that sound strong and uplift her party, and despite the fact that there will be people who find out that her talking points are false, she can continue to get away with it because she knows that not enough people who will make a difference are going to research the claims. It sounds good and powerful, and that's all many people care about.

This also brings me to another point. I get the feeling that if we go for the Republican ticket, we're going for Sarah Palin rather than John McCain. I have never seen this much star wattage lent to a VP candidate. We usually don't give a crap about VPs. Anyone vote or not vote for a candidate because of their VP? Yet, this year, McCain, knowing that the power of his name wasn't all that great, went with a dynamic woman no one outside of Alaska had really heard of, and vaulted her to celebrity status. The buttons you saw worn at the RNC showed what much of Palin's appeal came from: being attractive. Not only that, but she has five kids, one's going to war, and another has Down syndrome. Her backstory is exactly the type of thing that guys would make up to impress girls.

Back to terrorism. One claim consistently bothers me about the Bush administration, and that's "there haven't been any attacks on American soil since 9/11." They throw this out there because it's this Republican resolve that continues to stymie attacks; if it weren't for them, who knows what kind of destruction we would be witnessing? I couldn't help but think, though, that after the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, that the Clinton administration could have made the same claim during their time in office. There were clearly no attacks (by foreigners, at least) on American soil for the remainder of their tenure. It's because the Bush administration has been fighting wars the entire time since 2001 that the illusion of being kept safe has been created. So what do I make of the relatively peaceful times between 1994-2000?

This brings me to another problem. The fact that the World Trade Center was hit a year after one election in 1992 (bringing in first-termer Clinton) and then another in 2000 (bringing in first-termer Bush) makes me wary of 2009. It's a very, very small sample size, to be sure, but it seems like terrorists wait until a new President is sworn in to say, "Welcome to this world, bitches." A fantasy is created that makes Americans feel safe, and then the boom is lowered. So if Barack Obama wins the election, and we have a big terrorist attack, guess who is getting blamed...and guess who takes the credit for all the lack of activity before it? It's pretty bothersome.

Right now, I'm still an Obama believer. I don't generally trust people who have been in Washington for a long time, because they seem too ingrained into the nonsense that comes out of the government. And with all the claims by McCain that don't ring true, with all the studies I've been reading about the candidates, trying to separate the fact from the fiction, Obama comes out as a better candidate for me. Of course, things could change I suppose. But I'm primed to make this vote, which will likely just be piling on considering New York is mostly Democrat.

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At 9/07/2008 11:56:00 PM, Blogger Mike said...

I read plenty on this myself, and the lies and misinformation are pretty strong on the left wing side as well. The attacks on Palin have been below the belt, and I think the real truths on the (pretty average) current state of the economy are being held back in favor of fear and chances to attack the GOP.

I don't think Obama's that much. He's like Bush, but with the appeal of Palin, somehow. I can't stand to hear him speak, but whenever I do, I hear Salieri; "Mediocrities, mediocrities, I absolve you!".

And yes, I know that's a bit harsh, but seriously, what is he even going to be? What is he going to do? What are his major accomplishments? I don't understand where he wants to take this country, and the zeal that many people follow him with is out and out scary. There's something else going on, something psychological, that I simply don't get. At least with the Palin crazy-love going on, I understand it, as women of that type have never been in this position before.

God I hate this election. And it's entertaining as hell. So many seem to think that Obama will bring us together, but the hatred is only building and building. My thoughts develop every day, but I'm starting to get nervous about this.

 
At 9/08/2008 02:25:00 PM, Blogger Chris said...

I think this is a great forum to post as many pros and cons as possible. If you see some evidence for either candidate, pro or con, post it. I'm going to do the same.

 

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